Comments on: What do the characters we hate say about us?

By: reversethieves

reversethieves — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 19:02:57 +0000

@JANAiBlog
Misa has fanbase because she is attractive and has the ditzy appeal. But she is horrible person and a horrible character. Sheryl is easy to hate but is still a well written character so I give her a total pass. Still does not mean that I like her.
We discussed the possibility of major Hina backlash and went with it. I think I was hardly harsh to Hinagiku. I could have torn her apart but I felt that would be unfair and disingenuous because I feel all in all she is a good and fun character. I just don’t like her like you would think I would and not anywhere near as much as her fanbase does.
@Sheentaku
I could not stick around for Takumi Nishijo’s redemption. I feel some sort of growth from being the horrible person he was could be the only redeeming part of that franchise but he as just too sickening for me to go on the jorney.
I guess I don’t care about moe blobs so they don’t anger me. It is the missed potential of the characters I picked that angers me more. Characters that are useless from the get go don’t get your hopes up just to let them down. They try to sell Cecily as one thing but give you another. The main girl from Clannad was never supposed to be a powerhouse of awesome that then let you down.
Narutaki is just a mystified by her Sanji hate as you are. But I think it is because Sanji is all about this superficial lust as opposed to any genuine affection despite what he says.
As I told mechafaux on Twitter that is an idea we had been kicking around for awhile. It is definitely on our written list of articles to do. With a ton of other half formed ideas and partially written drafts.
@mechafaux
I am pretty sure that Narutaki shed a few manly tears when he found such a kindred spirit.
@Extrange
Well it is obvious you do not like male characters who do not take a hold of their own destiny either through apathy, fear, or stupidity. Also you apparently like the Eiichiro Oda school of goofy shonen protagonist as opposed to the Kishimoto family style. Then again Narutaki and I are big Oda fans but not so much Kishimoto fans so we understand where you are coming from.
@phatbhuda
Sheryl Nome is a great character but because in a way she is fun to hate. My main problem is that I felt the writers did not see Sheryl as being in the wrong.
Plus Ranka is awesome. I am sure the same complaints about Ranka’s flaws could to thrown out about her but I forgive them. All in all I am not saying people should not like Sheryl. She is a well done character and adds to the plot. I just don’t like her very much. I guess I would have just liked a more ToraDora approach to her behavior. Which just shows you should watch ToraDora.
- Hisui

By: phatbhuda

phatbhuda — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 13:56:14 +0000

I actually like Sheryl Nome for being falsely strong. That character ends up being a decent counterplay to the annoying little girl in that show.

By: Extrange

Extrange — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 00:31:54 +0000

There are quite a few characters that have my full hate:

1) Shy, indecisive characters: Tsuna Sawada (Hitman Reborn!), Rito Youki (To Love-Ru). They spend 95% of the plot trying to move forward or confessing, but to fail over and over again in a endless loop of torture.

2)DUMB AS A DOORKNOB Characters: Naruto (Naruto), Jio Freed (666 Satan). They are common in shounen manga, but these 2 are the biggest ROCKS ever. They act tough, but most of the time are too confused about what’s happening around due to their brain limitations. Notice that a slight dumb factor isn’t bad and can enhance the character’s charm (Luffy (One Piece) and Natsu (Fairy Tail) are a good example.) But Naru/Jio are Darwin rejects…

3)E.M.O. aka Extremely Malignant Organisms: Shinji Ikari (Evangelion) Sasuke (Naruto) . They are emos, enough said. It’s on our genetic code to poke emos with a stick and smear their mascara with their tears as we call then fake Goths.

By: reversethieves

reversethieves — Mon, 23 Nov 2009 22:47:24 +0000

@Sheentaku
I think the hate for harem male leads stems more from them being extremely generic and even times below average guys who really exhibit no qualities that would attract women let alone 4-10 of them. But that is why it is a fantasy, as if to say to the viewer, hey you can have this happen, too! I can’t say I really hate them, atleast not in the same way as the characters I’m discussing here because for the most part they just aren’t really written that well in the first place. And as I said in my first paragraph, a poorly made character doesn’t garner my hate.

-Narutaki

By: mechafaux

mechafaux — Mon, 23 Nov 2009 21:36:46 +0000

Flay seriously needed to be sliced up and skewered.

By: Sheentaku

Sheentaku — Mon, 23 Nov 2009 18:53:15 +0000

Takumi Nishijo is a character who I think is made to be hated, he is borderline insane and well is a creep.
What happened in the visual Novel and kinda in the anime is heeventually manned up and became a better person.
Though i still hated him too… but I saw his redemption

A lot of Hisui’s characters are deeply flawed. They attempt to act like what’s expected of them, but they are not like that deep down inside (Sheryl and Cecily). I think they are more interesting than your average moe blob, they at least attempt to be strong and just like in real life not everyone is.
Though I dislike them too I still understand them.

The hate that Harem male leads get is something i never understood, they are surrounded by beautiful women. I think any man would be indecisive about that.

Narutaki Characters all except Sanji (who really does not deserve your hate) are all mean people and well I hate them too!

Characters I tend to hate are people like Naruto, Natsu from fairy tail that basically act constantly dum and do not think things through and believe that a punch will solve anything.

Really good post guys, super enjoyed it! A suggestion for the next one though.

How about characters who are written as a Villain but you end up liking?
For example Dio from JOJO is one for me, His vain, pure evil but by god that man has style.

By: JANAiBlog

JANAiBlog — Mon, 23 Nov 2009 18:31:28 +0000

Good picks, I mostly agree, especially with Misa and Sheryl. I don’t get why people love them so much; I just find them annoying.

Expect some fanboy backlash for that Hinagiku mention though. =)